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Taunt (and simultaneous effects)

This question applies to a number of situations, but most easily with the Tough Guy's basic progress card, Taunt. Taunt reads: "If any Entity inflicts you [STRESS], Stun that Entity (until the end of this Turn)." Stunned reads: "No [STRESS] effects this Turn" If an entity would target more than one dreamer with the same e.g. Basic Action, do the players have the ability to cause their Tough Guy to be targeted first and, if Taunt is installed, stun the entity, thus negating the stress that would have been caused to the other dreamers.

Do the effects on cards/entities that affect "each dreamer..." happen simultaneously, meaning there can be no other effects that interrupt that e.g. stress. I think this also applies in Dream II-02, because of various token interactions, but an answer to this question would help that one without spoilers. Thank you!

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dasgrischa

Dec 28, 2020

it is 2/12 or 1/6 and yes it is useless, i took it off my deck. much better to hide from entities or do 1 turn wins. cheers

Rikard Fjellhaug

Dec 06, 2020

I think your last interpretation is the correct one. Meaning Stun effects only has effect AFTER the Turn step it was applied. That is how we play it anyway. MY reasoning. Don't add to the rules. is something I always apply when playing boardgames. Each turn step is resolved from top to bottom. Each Dreamer within range takes 1 [stress] as an example. Since it doesn't say anything about being targeted first, I assume it would mean it all happens at the same time. Otherwise I would ADD to the rules that there is a hidden secret round where each Dreamer affected take their [stress] one by one by going around the table. I also think it would make the Taunt action, waaaaaaaaay to powerful, as it mean in essence that one entity alone would never ever be able to inflict [stress] on anyone else BUT the Tough guy. And it also mean you don't need to have the Tough guy in front to AGGRO Entities and keep the others out of range. I could be completely wrong however. My two cents.

Dan

Dec 06, 2020

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My issue is that without the prior interpretation taunt is all but useless 11/12 ths of the time. Almost every turn card for every entity will only cause damage once - without spoilers this isn't always true, but enough true to matter. And since stun ends at the end of that turn card, it effectively does nothing if it can't prevent damage to that same attack. In either case the tough guy would have to be in range of the entity's attack, which isn't always a helpful way to play when you have other objectives to complete. That being said, having played more since this post, the game is so hard to die in, that I think I agree there doesn't need to be even less damage going around.

Rikard Fjellhaug

Dec 06, 2020

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@Dan I see your argument. I play a 4 player game now, and our biggest problem is running out of [disstress] tokens. Our Reaper loves to soak the damage (to boost abilities) that we have been close to loosing at least on two occasions. [distress] isn't the only thing that damages you, being forced to seal cards as well hurts you. two of our players lost 8 and 12 cards in one single turn! with less than 6 cards in your active deck, you die. Our Tough guy had 9 cards left when we won. I don't agree the Taunt is only usable ever 11/12 ths of the time. With several entities on board you only stun one miniature at the time for instance. Several entities does damage on both basic and special steps. It is however a situational card, but it did save us at least once from outright loose the game, that was an epic moment for our Tough Guy.